Extreme Srtreet Purse

[gcreech]

Any way we could get a set purse so that we know what were shootin for? I would love to attend these races but these are very expensive cars to build/operate for a 100% payback deal!

Thanks,

Greg Creech

[Kelly Pelrine]

I would love to do just that. But currently payout is based on car count. If i get a decent spectator count, i throw in more. Give me a little bit to work some numbers such as if X amount of cars show here is how payout will break down. In the meantime if any sponsors would like to step up & help out that would be great! Even if its $100 a race or something, thats more that can be added to the purse!

[gcreech]

Any updates on an xstreet purse? We are considering making the drive but it is 250 miles one way. Any incentive????

THanks,

Greg

[Kelly Pelrine]

Any updates on an xstreet purse? We are considering making the drive but it is 250 miles one way. Any incentive????

THanks,

Greg

Wish i could give you and everyone else in XS more incentive but i cant at this time. Purse is per car count. So, if we get 6 cars thats $75 a car which is $450 to be split between winner, r/u and semis. Or, however you guys perfer to decide on. I am open to suggestions. The more cars that show means a bigger purse.

Kel

[gcreech]

The flyer for edgewater lists 12 sponsors. Do none of these sponsors support extreme street?

[Kelly Pelrine]

The flyer for edgewater lists 12 sponsors. Do none of these sponsors support extreme street?

VP is the class sponsor. No matter how i answer this it will probably come off wrong. With that being said i do not feel it is good business to discuss OSM's business regarding its sponsors or our financial situation on a message board.

Thanks!
Kelly

[inthe5s]

The flyer for edgewater lists 12 sponsors. Do none of these sponsors support extreme street?

Maybe I can help you out there .. there May be 11 or so sponsors well not all of them pay money every month some may have gave product or added to the year end points fund . Now you need to look at what is payed out every race lets say the purse is 1000.00 for 1st and 500.00 for second 200.00 for 3rd . thats 1700.00 every race if you have 5 to 7 cars if your entry is 95 per car with 7 cars you got 665.00 for the class that leaves you with 1035.00 to come up with. thats just 1 class there are 5 . now I would think 6.50 and 7.50 hold there own . 8.5 is close but still lose money from my math. I don't think a sponsor for the class is going to pay $1000 for every race maybe $2500 to $3500 for the year from my experience so you would need a lot of good sponsors to carry the full purse for the year . also Good fan count is what helps .. you got to get a few bucks from each person that comes and if there is only 200 to 500 ( thats about what has been coming I think to the race) that would be only $1000 at best . so in the end you can not pay out what dose not come in. there is a lot of expense in advertising flyer's and Internet are the cheapest way but still cost I did some radio adds that cost me $200 per day and that was only 6 times a day. I don't know if this helps you answer you question but should shed some light on what it takes to run a race

[gcreech]

That makes perfect sense to me Vernon. I am a very business minded person so I can relate to that. If you dont have the income you cant pay the purses. However if you want to build a business you show the customer what they want and you dont cut back on the purse or product. If Macdonalds offers a $2 Big Mac and only 100 people show up to buy it they dont penalize those that do show up. It is proven, if you want a successful business you have to be willing to sacrafice profits until the business is established.

Kelly, The logical solution would to be to EQUALLY support the OUTLAW classes. The side by side, heads-up action is what the fans want to see. In my opinion, since it is an outlaw series support the outlaw classes. There are plenty of places for bracket racers to race . Is an index class or 2 in this case any different than bracket racing?

I can name you several racing sanctions that have stuck to there guns and payed the purse and are growing each month. Those that cut purses will fold!


Ok I am off my soap box!


This is in no way a bash to OSM, just some advise.

Thanks,

Greg Creech

[Tim Duncan]

Pick on us index cars. :064: I have raced Index racing, Handicaped index racing, Heads up, and Bracket racing. They are all a little the same and a little different at the same time. If you dont support the series and give it a chance to grow it wont.

[Hyper-Performance]

I think Kelly could get more sponsors to step up if they knew their advertising/sponsorship money was going to reward them with more business. Ask yourself if you buy everything you can from those that support you?

Everyone is feeling the belt tightening, it costs more to do less and a lot of folks are cutting out the unnecessary. That hurts sponsors, racers and fans.

How much word of mouth promotion does everyone do to help talk the series up? Fans love a good heads-up racing enviornment! (And if you saw everyone flock to the pit walls during the last race and leave as soon at the OSM bunch was done you would understand that folks love watching, but they just dont know about it). I know that I personally posted on several local, state and national race boards about the race last weekend that otherwise would not have had even a peep about it.

It's everyone pulling together to make it as big as you want. Kelly can't do it all, she is just building a strong foundation to make sure it grows strong and straight!

So what can be done to make things better/bigger?

[gcreech]

Sorry to step on anyones toes. I guess I just dont see the need to have a 6.50 and a 7.50 when the sponsorship pool can not support the original classes. Hell lets make it 7.0 and let you both run run! lol

We all know that extreme street cars are very expensive and tends to drive numbers down but we sure cant be running that level of a car for gas $$$.

As far as that goes is there such a thing as a cheap race car? lol

Speed costs $. How fast you wanna go??

[oc9009]

Funny how the index class racers always get thrown under the bus, but we support the series without much :022:. Sit at home and throw stones if it makes you happy.

[Hyper-Performance]

You want to make a small fortune racing cars?





Start with a large fortune!

[gcreech]

NO NO NO.

Hell I dont want to make a penny! I enjoy racing. However, 100% payback to extreme street cars is a slap in the face. Like it was said earlier "Everyone Flocks to watch Heads-up"

I am not going to sit here and beat a dead horse. I would just like to race with OSM at least once this season.

[gcreech]

Lets put it on the table. What did Greg Smith take home SAt?

Maybe I am way outta line hear? Hell Some fuel and a little cash would tickle me to death.

[gcreech]

That car is from here in E. Ky and the closest OSM race of the year is Edgewater and it is 400 mile round trip.

[Jason]

Somehow its the index classes fault that you don't show up to race. That sounds like liberal America today, lets take from others to make me feel better. Depending where the race is, I have usually lost money before I even left the house and that includes winning the race.. I know your car costs more to build, but we all bear the same costs in diesel fuel and food. Good Luck with your racing. Jason Creamer

[gcreech]

Jason I do not want to get into a pissing match about which calsses shoud be running. Kelly will make this choice. The way I see it she should probably support those that support her and I m sure 6.50 and 7.50 has the biggest car counts. That is easy to figure out. Maybe VP should sponsor those classes and just drop ex street.

At least I woke the board up it was getting kinda dead. lol

[Tim Duncan]

You still have one more chance this year to show off your x-treme street ride in OSM. Come on out and play. We all agree that making money in racing is next to imposible to do and we all do it because we enjoy it. Even on our level in the index racing we might not have as much money in our car but it still costs us to get to the track and run our program.

[Jason]

Greg, have you ever thought about trying the 8.5 class? They get real good car counts and have a nice purse.
Plus, I think this negative talk doesn't help the OSM and their sponsors, who may be reading this. Jason

[Kelly Pelrine]

That makes perfect sense to me Vernon. I am a very business minded person so I can relate to that. If you dont have the income you cant pay the purses. However if you want to build a business you show the customer what they want and you dont cut back on the purse or product. If Macdonalds offers a $2 Big Mac and only 100 people show up to buy it they dont penalize those that do show up. It is proven, if you want a successful business you have to be willing to sacrafice profits until the business is established.

Kelly, The logical solution would to be to EQUALLY support the OUTLAW classes. The side by side, heads-up action is what the fans want to see. In my opinion, since it is an outlaw series support the outlaw classes. There are plenty of places for bracket racers to race . Is an index class or 2 in this case any different than bracket racing?

I can name you several racing sanctions that have stuck to there guns and payed the purse and are growing each month. Those that cut purses will fold!


Ok I am off my soap box!


This is in no way a bash to OSM, just some advise.

Thanks,

Greg Creech


If it made so much sense to you why do you keep asking me lol? As i told you before if i had the money i would pay it out. If you think im sittin back gettin rich please pass me what your smokin :D. In the beginning of the year, all purses were guarenteed with the exception of PS. From day one this year PS has been based on car count. That was posted in Feb i believe. After the first race and only 2 XS cars showed up, yes i decided to no longer guarentee their purse, as stated in the entry fee & purses thread. So, i really dont understand why you are arguing with me or feel the need to give advice? I want nothing more than this series to work and grow. And i would LOVE to be able to pay a bigger purse to EVERY class, every race. I do everything i can for these guys. I dont treat them like crap like others have, i am straight up and i believe most of them know that and that is why they stick with me. Money definately helps but there are more reasons than that as to why these guys show up & bust their asses every race. If money is the only thing driving you to race, then i suggest building a Super Pro car and hitting all the big money races they have within a 4 hour drive. Thats about the only way anyone is gonna make money in drag racing.

Each year i learn more and more. I have several ideas for next year and hopefully i can make them work! If you'd like to give a call or have some positive ideas to help im all ears 513-260-8262. I basically do this by myself so i can use all the help i can get.

Kelly