2008 Season

[Louis Sylvester Sr.]

Now that the rules are out, who is doing what? Who is racing and with what combo? Are current program with the 08 rules will not run 11.30's so we will only be racing Joliet and Milan. We are not spending the money to change combo's. Although we will be running the IMSM series for 2008. Good luck guys and have a great time. We will miss hanging out with you.

[Dave Patti]

My thoughts, I simply enjoy the competition of racing and will participate when/where I can (win or lose). However, due to transportation limitations, I will be focusing on local events where I can drive the car too/from the track.

I do plan on participating in NMRA at Illinois and possibly Michigan where I will be giving 150%. We have seen in the past that the fastest car does not always win. Sometimes it is the most reliable, or the competition is having an off day. Everyone has a fighter's chance.

Hell, if the Giants can take the Cowboys and the Chargers can take the Colts, then anything can happen... Though, unfortunately, the Bears cannot get their head out of their ass, but then again, there is always next season.

[Tommy@JPC]

We will be running the full season, may have to mis the Chicago Race due to the Due Date of my 2nd child! Oh well somethings are more important

[Jonathan Paulk]

Congrats, Tommy. I would come by the shop but I am still not able to drive my truck since my surgery (got some repair work done on my left ankle). My plans for 2008 and beyond....I am thinking about selling all my crap, even my truck before we move to Germany. When we payoff the Focus, order a Challenger through AAFES about 6mos before we live Germany and pick it up when we get back to the states...Or order it as soon as the Focus is paid off and have fun with it Germany....Forget this heads-up crap and traveling all over the country....

[KenB]

Pretty sure there will be a new car out of the MD camp that no one is expecting...

[Mike Washington]

Pretty sure there will be a new car out of the MD camp that no one is expecting...


"Unported 2-Valve" ;) Perhaps...........


Look for a 2nd JPC Pushrod, Heeeeeheeeee!

Laters.....

Mike Washington

[KenB]

"Unported 2-Valve" ;) Perhaps...........


Look for a 2nd JPC Pushrod, Heeeeeheeeee!

Laters.....

Mike Washington

Nope. But then again looks like I phrased it wrong. It won't be a 'new' car. ;) Just a new driver and it's new to MD. Not a done deal but pretty much.

[Brr Mrr]

I think I heard ......ah never mine...let it be a surprise
Brr Mrr

Good Luck to all...

[Tommy@JPC]

Cool more cars to beat up on :D Have fun changing head gaskets in R/S Ken.

[f/s 4valve]

Cool more cars to beat up on :D Have fun changing head gaskets in R/S Ken.

no tommy i want you to have fun collecting 2nd place money. and if this guy can drive maybe third.:eek:

[Tommy@JPC]

no tommy i want you to have fun collecting 2nd place money. and if this guy can drive maybe third.:eek:


HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA. I got enough 2nd place money last year. It's all about the 1ST Place money. I'm trying to be like the patriots and start collecting Rings! It's January, time to start talking smack :D

So when are you buying my Cobra Steve?

[Shawn Johnson]

I think MD just likes Black cars.....

There might be more surprises in 08 then anyone knows....

[KenB]

Cool more cars to beat up on :D Have fun changing head gaskets in R/S Ken.


Huh? The car isn't even built yet. Mikey already planning to tear me down after I beat up on him? lol :D

[Tommy@JPC]

Huh? The car isn't even built yet. Mikey already planning to tear me down after I beat up on him? lol :D


Nope, just burning her down every run.

Man is Shawn Driving for MD. That would be sweet. I wouldn't mind racing Mr. GrannyShifter. Maybe try an auto car out? poke.smack.poke.:p

Actually it's probably Jeff driving for MD w/ a 2v. Even better.

[Eric@JPC]

i think im driving a wakeboard!! haha

See you guys in Atco

[Ian Mullane]

Nope, just burning her down every run.

Man is Shawn Driving for MD. That would be sweet. I wouldn't mind racing Mr. GrannyShifter. Maybe try an auto car out? poke.smack.poke.:p

Actually it's probably Jeff driving for MD w/ a 2v. Even better.

You guys are close;) Keep guessing.

[Tommy@JPC]

You guys are close;) Keep guessing.

Well so Mr.Grannyshifter #1 Shawn is out.
and Grannyshifter #2 Jeff is out.

HUMMMM. Black cars..... I would say Bob Cosby but there wouldn't be a question on wether he could drive like Steve was saying. I don't know I give up. I'm winning Florida anyways. :eek: poke

[Brr Mrr]

According to Tommy ...Jeff and Shawn are granny shifters...Hmmm..Would you fit in that catagory Ian???? I think a Black car would soot you just fine....Guessing...thats all..for that matter a teal one would look good on you too. For some reason I opened the car trailer the other day and one of our cars was missing, couldnt tell which one though, it was dark in there....
Brr Mrr

[Mike Washington]

You guys are close;) Keep guessing.

Allright.......The cat is almost outta the bag....


I will fess up....


I will be driving a Black S197 chassis with a BES built 3V, MD tuned, and Crewed by Ken B and Shawn Johnson.


HeeeHeee Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Laters
Mike Washington



















PS Any statements said above might be attributed to Sky Vodka.....The brand Vodka Drinkers prefer! ;)

[Brr Mrr]

Oh I heard of two new cars showing up here and there to move some points around for everyone...No repeat championships allowed. poke and jab Tommy..Think red. hahahaha....have fun with that. How much for that Cobra???
Brr Mrr

[Tommy@JPC]

Oh I heard of two new cars showing up here and there to move some points around for everyone...No repeat championships allowed. poke and jab Tommy..Think red. hahahaha....have fun with that. How much for that Cobra???
Brr Mrr

I feel sorry for whoever lines up against me this year. I was just warming up last year to heads up racing. It's GAME ON this year 150%. No midseason swaps, no lack of seat time, no lack of testing, no rookie mistakes, no lack of concentration, I got that all out of my system. No more handouts either;) .

$35,000 for the cobra Brian. If you know some potential buyers let me know.

Link :http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/MysticMama/?action=view&current=AtcoVideo1.flv

Silver car is mine. 1st pass was cold off the trailer so I Shawn Shifted it. The 6speed doesn't like to be shifted cold. On the 10.27 pass I pedaled it, track was going away. It's also funny to listen to the shifts and watch how the rear suspension is soft and takes time to catch up.

[Tommy@JPC]

..Jeff and Shawn are granny shifters
Brr Mrr

Shawn yes, Jeff nah, I'm just trying to bring him out of the woodworks. Since I know Jeff thinks he can out drive me:rolleyes: I hope the Black Mach 1 is on its way down here to 11.0-11.30 country for some real drivin':eek: poke....

[Brr Mrr]

Shawn yes, Jeff nah, I'm just trying to bring him out of the woodworks. Since I know Jeff thinks he can out drive me:rolleyes: I hope the Black Mach 1 is on its way down here to 11.0-11.30 country for some real drivin':eek: poke....

Be carefull for what you wish for: There was alot of give me's on both sides last year...I know of a few teams that will be giving it 150 %, you best not make any mistakes.. Too bad I wont be in the mix it sure sounds fun and I am sure gonna miss it especialy since we caged up the blue car it is gonna really hook this year, with a few adjustments, but i have other things in mind this year. Good Luck..
Brr Mrr

[jclarkg]

So I guess this year the F/S class will consist of JPC & Mdmotorsports. Oh, I forgot John Z will be the lone ranger , unless my Yankee Brother joins him. Good luck to all.

Jamie R.
'01 Silver Cobra on the Cover of MM&FF's August '07 Issue
'87 GT NMRA F/S 6500 FOR SALE CAR OR MOTOR

[John Leslie Jr.]

Jamie, what about me brotha!? :D

[Chalie Sr.]

Well Pop Pop will be around to play!!!! I have some new stuff ! Oh yea and my car is Black!!! He He!!!!
Later,

[Tommy@JPC]

Be carefull for what you wish for: There was alot of give me's on both sides last year...I know of a few teams that will be giving it 150 %, you best not make any mistakes.. Too bad I wont be in the mix it sure sounds fun and I am sure gonna miss it especialy since we caged up the blue car it is gonna really hook this year, with a few adjustments, but i have other things in mind this year. Good Luck..
Brr Mrr


Like I said, no lack of testing or seat time this year. I am no longer the Rookie. It's gonna be fun! I'm gonna miss you guys the most.:(

[Dave Patti]

I feel sorry for whoever lines up against me this year. I was just warming up last year to heads up racing. It's GAME ON this year 150%. No midseason swaps, no lack of seat time, no lack of testing, no rookie mistakes, no lack of concentration, I got that all out of my system. No more handouts either;) .

$35,000 for the cobra Brian. If you know some potential buyers let me know.

Link :http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/MysticMama/?action=view&current=AtcoVideo1.flv

Silver car is mine. 1st pass was cold off the trailer so I Shawn Shifted it. The 6speed doesn't like to be shifted cold. On the 10.27 pass I pedaled it, track was going away. It's also funny to listen to the shifts and watch how the rear suspension is soft and takes time to catch up.


Any damage to the red cobra as it appeared to smoke at the end of the track?

The 9 second runs in your car, was that with or without the nitrous?

[Tommy@JPC]

Any damage to the red cobra as it appeared to smoke at the end of the track?

The 9 second runs in your car, was that with or without the nitrous?

NO NITROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Red car lifted the heads.

[Shawn Johnson]

Tommy

I see through this thread you are fascinated with my "shifting"...
Is this your try at humor?
Or is your head so big now ... we should just call you the "new professor"....
anytime you want to teach me your masterful ways of driving just bring your car to a track and let me drive.....

[Jonathan Paulk]

OH MY....This would be a good episode of PINKS!!!

[Dave Patti]

OH MY....This would be a good episode of PINKS!!!

Shawn vs. Tommy... Now that would be worth hopping on a plane to see in person....

[Brr Mrr]

My Money is on THE 2 Time (BACK TO BACK , 1st time ever done) NMRA FACTORY STOCK CHAMP AND THE OPEN COMP CHAMP,= 3 Championships for one driver, must be something in the MICHIGAN water.......

AND YOUR NOT FROM MICHIGAN :D :D :D

[Brr Mrr]

Better yet Ive heard so much B.S. over the years I have one for you Take The best of the Best racers who have finished in the top five or better since the nmra has started for past and present factory stock racers that have been voted the best top five guys for factory stock( The Living Legends) by their peers of factory stock racers past and present and only those who have raced in FS can do this: Then put them in a 5.0, a 2v, a 3v and a 4v give them ten passes a piece and this is just a suggestion but we can figure out here amongst us how to determine who is the BEST. We as a group can decide on how we determine the Best driver of all time is..HAHAHAHAHAHA What a shoot out that would be..Magazine coverage...I think so...Are you Listening NMRA. Now that is definately saying when the light drops all the Bullshit stops.......What do you think?????????????????????


Brr Mrr


ARE U SCARED, Or AFRAID of not being in that five group make it A TEN GROUP.......:D


THIS is gonna be fun...:eek: :rolleyes: :p

It could be a Pinks thing NMRA style

[Brr Mrr]

A few from the start I would pick to be in the dog fight...
Jeff
Shawn
Ian
Bob
Mike W.
Justin
The Farmer( Because he is the Future Champ)
Rich
Uncle Robin
There is just a few to start- The 10th one I wont say yet

[Brandon Alsept]

That's a good idea Brian;)

I just don't ever see all the people involved to agree on how it should be run LOL. I could hear it now "well he got to drive that car when it was cool, I drove it after 4 people had, if I would have drove it first I would have went way faster".

Would be entertaining though:cool:

[Tommy@JPC]

Tommy

I see through this thread you are fascinated with my "shifting"...
Is this your try at humor?
Or is your head so big now ... we should just call you the "new professor"....
anytime you want to teach me your masterful ways of driving just bring your car to a track and let me drive.....

I love it. Your buttons are way to easy to push.:)

The big head thing has run its course. I would have no problem having us pick a neutral car to see who went quicker. It's just 1 more free pass down the track. All I want to do is race. If you read my posts I was clearing just teasing, trying to livin' things up. It's all about competition and winning. ;)
Have a good days boys.

[Ryan Hecox]

My Money is on THE 2 Time (BACK TO BACK , 1st time ever done) NMRA FACTORY STOCK CHAMP AND THE OPEN COMP CHAMP,= 3 Championships for one driver, must be something in the MICHIGAN water.......

AND YOUR NOT FROM MICHIGAN :D :D :D



ummm, Chris Little was 3 times back to back drag radial champion straight out of Pasadena, MD! Maybe its something in our sunshine. Justin Burcham, Tommy Godfry, Mike Washington, Rich Groh, Phil Clemmons.... ALL flew the JPC flags when they won their championships.

I'm not taking anything away from Shawn and his hard work and he deserves recognition. But we cant win them all =)

[KenCook]

A few people need to be swapped to and from that list.

Cosby is hard to bet against

The man was power shifting Model T's in his teens :D
J/K Bob

[Shawn Johnson]

ummm, Chris Little was 3 times back to back drag radial champion straight out of Pasadena, MD! Maybe its something in our sunshine. Justin Burcham, Tommy Godfry, Mike Washington, Rich Groh, Phil Clemmons.... ALL flew the JPC flags when they won their championships.

I'm not taking anything away from Shawn and his hard work and he deserves recognition. But we cant win them all =)


Come on Ryan.... How many cars does JPC have stickers on.... the odds for them getting a champion car are very good...:D
I’m just one car by myself.....

Anyway..... I'm in a race with Rich to be the first to have a championship in three different classes....


And Tommy

This idea that constantly insulting someone is humor must be a North East thing....
And as far as things running their course the humor of insulting my driving ability is a dead horse the Mike and Justin have beat to mutilation well before you even showed up in FS…

[KenCook]

Some sort of race car simulator will end this.

like this but for drag racing. Hmmm... I might be onto something.

http://www.virtual-gt.com/im/Red_Yel_Wide_sml.jpg

[Tommy@JPC]

And Tommy

This idea that constantly insulting someone is humor must be a North East thing....
And as far as things running their course the humor of insulting my driving ability is a dead horse the Mike and Justin have beat to mutilation well before you even showed up in FS…

1st off, it was a joke and 2nd'ly truth hurts. You do granny shift. It's not a big deal. Calm down.:o

[Ian Mullane]

Some sort of race car simulator will end this.

like this but for drag racing. Hmmm... I might be onto something.

http://www.virtual-gt.com/im/Red_Yel_Wide_sml.jpg

Only an internet racer like yourself would think up something like that Ken:p

[Tommy@JPC]

Only an internet racer like yourself would think up something like that Ken:p

Now Ian that is an insult and I thought you guys from up in North Central part of this continent do not do that?

[KenCook]

Internet racing is much cheaper and I'm pretty damn good at it :p

[Mike Washington]

A few from the start I would pick to be in the dog fight...
Jeff
Shawn
Ian
Bob
Mike W.
Justin
The Farmer( Because he is the Future Champ)
Rich
Uncle Robin
There is just a few to start- The 10th one I wont say yet

Here is my take.........
Jeff- Never won a championship Perenial Bridesmaid-Alternate
Shawn-2 Time Champ-IN
Ian-Never won a race-Might have, but passed the scales-OUT
Bob-1st Modular win 04 Champ-IN
Mike W.-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 03 Champ-IN
Justin-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 02 Champ-IN
The Farmer( Because he is the Future Champ)-2 Time race Winner Quickest FS Pass ever- Alternate
Rich- Brought FS to a Level never seen before-w/ an auto to boot 01 Champ-IN
Uncle Robin-Never won a Championship-Justins Whipping Boy Multi National Event wins-Alternate
Joffre LaFontaine-Original Pioneer in FS 00 Champ-IN
Jamie Holten-Heir to Uncle Robins Bullet-2 Time National Event Winner If he would have stuck with it, Coulda won it all-OUT
Gabe Large-Joffre's whipping boy in 00-Bad Man-OUT
Lisa Reffert-4V Pioneer before Cosby, Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda-OUT
Tommy-1 National Event win, 07 Champ-National Record Holder-Quickest FS 5.0 ever-IN

So the Qualifier Ladder:

1. Shawn Most FS Wins and Finals
2. Mike 2nd Most Wins and Finals
3. Bob
4. Justin
5. Jofrre
6. Rich
7. Tommy
8. Robin
Alternates:

9. Steve
10. Jeff


Just my take:
No disrespect meant!

Laters
Mike Washington

[Tommy@JPC]

Here is my take.........
Jeff- Never won a championship Perenial Bridesmaid-Alternate
Shawn-2 Time Champ-IN
Ian-Never won a race-Might have, but passed the scales-OUT
Bob-1st Modular win 04 Champ-IN
Mike W.-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 03 Champ-IN
Justin-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 02 Champ-IN
The Farmer: 2 Time race Winner Quickest FS Pass ever- Alternate
Rich- Brought FS to a Level never seen before-w/ an auto to boot 01 Champ-IN
Uncle Robin-Never won a Championship-Justins Whipping Boy Multi National Event wins-Alternate
Joffre LaFontaine-Original Pioneer in FS 00 Champ-IN
Jamie Holten-Heir to Uncle Robins Bullet-2 Time National Event Winner If he would have stuck with it, Coulda won it all-OUT
Gabe Large-Joffre's whipping boy in 00-Bad Man-OUT
Lisa Reffert-4V Pioneer before Cosby, Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda-OUT
Tommy-1 National Event win, 07 Champ-National Record Holder-Quickest FS 5.0 ever-IN

So the Qualifier Ladder:

1. Shawn Most FS Wins and Finals
2. Mike 2nd Most Wins and Finals
3. Bob
4. Justin
5. Jofrre
6. Rich
7. Tommy
8. Robin
Alternates:

9. Steve
10. Jeff


Just my take:
No disrespect meant!

Laters
Mike Washington

Edited for ya.:p

[f/s 4valve]

Here is my take.........
Jeff- Never won a championship Perenial Bridesmaid-Alternate
Shawn-2 Time Champ-IN
Ian-Never won a race-Might have, but passed the scales-OUT
Bob-1st Modular win 04 Champ-IN
Mike W.-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 03 Champ-IN
Justin-Multi-time(different years) National Record Holder 02 Champ-IN
The Farmer( Because he is the Future Champ)-2 Time race Winner Quickest FS Pass ever- Alternate
Rich- Brought FS to a Level never seen before-w/ an auto to boot 01 Champ-IN
Uncle Robin-Never won a Championship-Justins Whipping Boy Multi National Event wins-Alternate
Joffre LaFontaine-Original Pioneer in FS 00 Champ-IN
Jamie Holten-Heir to Uncle Robins Bullet-2 Time National Event Winner If he would have stuck with it, Coulda won it all-OUT
Gabe Large-Joffre's whipping boy in 00-Bad Man-OUT
Lisa Reffert-4V Pioneer before Cosby, Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda-OUT
Tommy-1 National Event win, 07 Champ-National Record Holder-Quickest FS 5.0 ever-IN

So the Qualifier Ladder:

1. Shawn Most FS Wins and Finals
2. Mike 2nd Most Wins and Finals
3. Bob
4. Justin
5. Jofrre
6. Rich
7. Tommy
8. Robin
Alternates:

9. Steve
10. Jeff


Just my take:
No disrespect meant!

Laters
Mike Washington

hey mikey boy.how many nat. events did robin win in f/s

[Jonathan Paulk]

Wonder why I am no where on that list....????...OH WELL!!! Is it because I won a National Event along with going to five finals with a bumb left ankle on a very limited budget???

[Tim Duncan]

I would put Jeff in. And I wouldnt want to run against Ian if he had a competitive car. Gabe can drive pretty well also.

[Dave Patti]

Two drivers that probably should be considered as alternates are Troy Carter and John Leslie Jr....

[KenCook]

get a simulator and I would kick yall butts

[Ian Mullane]

Now Ian that is an insult and I thought you guys from up in North Central part of this continent do not do that?

I'm from Kentucky. Don't group me in with those southern Canadians. Now I'm insulted:mad: .:D

[Ian Mullane]

Two drivers that probably should be considered as alternates are Troy Carter and John Leslie Jr....

Quite honestly those two would make my top five if we were just talking driving ability. They both made it pretty far on skill and not on their equipment.

Mike, you had to bring up the scale incedent didn't ya. I would have busted your a$$ :p

[jclarkg]

I think pretty much everybody can drive some maybe a little better than others, but not a lot different. The biggest difference was and is the cars, some cars had more put into them than others. You want to see who can really drive, take a group and run one car and let it be a stock car with a stock tranny, no pro-shiftin' bs and then you'll find out who can do what.

Jamie R.
'01 Silver Cobra on the Cover of MM&FF's August '07 Issue
'93 Vortech'ed Lightning
'87 GT NMRA F/S 6500 FOR SALE CAR OR MOTOR

[KenCook]

True.
Who won more events or titles does not tell the whole story.

It does hot show who can hit the shift points all the time, shift times, launch technique, RT and so on.


I think pretty much everybody can drive some maybe a little better than others, but not a lot different. The biggest difference was and is the cars, some cars had more put into them than others. You want to see who can really drive, take a group and run one car and let it be a stock car with a stock tranny, no pro-shiftin' bs and then you'll find out who can do what.

Jamie R.
'01 Silver Cobra on the Cover of MM&FF's August '07 Issue
'93 Vortech'ed Lightning
'87 GT NMRA F/S 6500 FOR SALE CAR OR MOTOR

[Brandon Alsept]

As far as Driving ability itself it would be hard to pick a top 5 but here is how I have saw it over the last couple years.

1. Bob
2. Ian
3. Justin
4. Mike
5. Shawn


Sure you all will argue my #5. I say he is in the top 5 no matter what. He showed great ability to run very consistent in a inconsistent class, and being a consistent driver adds a lot in my mind.

[ponie1992]

You want to see who can really drive, take a group and run one car and let it be a stock car with a stock tranny, no pro-shiftin' bs and then you'll find out who can do what.

Jamie R.
'01 Silver Cobra on the Cover of MM&FF's August '07 Issue
'93 Vortech'ed Lightning
'87 GT NMRA F/S 6500 FOR SALE CAR OR MOTOR

That's me right there! I'd whip all ya'll's butts!

[Brr Mrr]

It wasnt who won what championship it was the best of the best drivers according to all the fs guys. Like jaime said even make it just one car, put up or shut up. ha I know where my money is.

[f/s 4valve]

I would put Jeff in. And I wouldnt want to run against Ian if he had a competitive car. Gabe can drive pretty well also.

http://modulardepot.powertvonline.com/video_detail.php?mId=1903 :)
will this get me in the top ten

[f/s 4valve]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=549894228431811089
i dont this will make the top ten

[Tim Duncan]

http://modulardepot.powertvonline.com/video_detail.php?mId=1903 :)
will this get me in the top ten


I had to look back at the list. I cant believe you were not on there before.:confused:

[Tommy@JPC]

Your a beast Steve! There's only one guy I've seen better than you, and he's typing this post. :)

[f/s 4valve]

Your a beast Steve! There's only one guy I've seen better than you, and he's typing this post. :)

yea that wasnt a very good pass the shifts were .18 .19 .18 . next year with somemore seat time should yield some .15 &.16

[Tim Duncan]

Bla this is shifting http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7392327913437116878&q=stangbangerz&total=36&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Chalie Sr.]

Well Guy's,
You are all good! The best that I have ever seen was Ed Smith.
Not only does he fix t5's. He know's how to drive. Without a doubt ! The best I ever seen on a 400 tree and rowing that t5. Just my thoughts. I know he never raced Factory Stock! Mr Washington I think you have seen Ed drive. What do you think?
Later,

[Tommy@JPC]

yea that wasnt a very good pass the shifts were .18 .19 .18 . next year with somemore seat time should yield some .15 &.16

I know it's not factory stock but Bruce Hemminger is a BEAST.

[Mike Washington]

yea that wasnt a very good pass the shifts were .18 .19 .18 . next year with somemore seat time should yield some .15 &.16

Wow, all this Fancy 2 Channel Autometer Data......LOL

We have had it in the car for the Contingency, Never used the Driveshaft Sensor.....We WILL next year.

I have used the capabilities in the Real Street car and I average .10 to .11 on the changes.....Bruce taught me to read the data. I might be calculating it different than you guys.

The best I have gone was .097

Well Guy's,
You are all good! The best that I have ever seen was Ed Smith.
Mr Washington I think you have seen Ed drive. What do you think?
Later,

Ed is one of the Greatest Mustang Racers of All Time. Nuff said!

Laters

Mike Washington

[Shawn Johnson]

Wow, all this Fancy 2 Channel Autometer Data......LOL

We have had it in the car for the Contingency, Never used the Driveshaft Sensor.....We WILL next year.

I have used the capabilities in the Real Street car and I average .10 to .11 on the changes.....Bruce taught me to read the data. I might be calculating it different than you guys.

The best I have gone was .097



Ed is one of the Greatest Mustang Racers of All Time. Nuff said!

Laters

Mike Washington

You are finally going to use it…..

That was the first thing I put in the FS car and its still there…
Warning….
You can’t lie to your crew chief with it… you can’t say you shifted smooth or at the right time if you didn’t….the only thing missing is a throttle position signal…
I still have all my tack data books from FS… We measure shift time from the initial flash break (clutch releases) to the bottom peak (clutch grabs).
I don’t know what my best is I would have to look through the books but I do know that I can see how bad I was when I started….

[Ryan Hecox]

You are finally going to use it…..

That was the first thing I put in the FS car and its still there…
Warning….
You can’t lie to your crew chief with it… you can’t say you shifted smooth or at the right time if you didn’t….the only thing missing is a throttle position signal…I still have all my tack data books from FS… We measure shift time from the initial flash break (clutch releases) to the bottom peak (clutch grabs).
I don’t know what my best is I would have to look through the books but I do know that I can see how bad I was when I started….

whats the purpose of the throttle position signal? My foot goes to the floor and stays there until I cross the finish line.

Every video I have ever watched of you, or should I say "listened too" sounds like you lift your foot off the gas pedal between shifts. That is how you have earned the name "Granny Shiftin Shawn Johnson"

My average is .13.... I consider myself to be a rather slow shifting person.

[Tommy@JPC]

Wow, all this Fancy 2 Channel Autometer Data......LOL

We have had it in the car for the Contingency, Never used the Driveshaft Sensor.....We WILL next year.

I have used the capabilities in the Real Street car and I average .10 to .11 on the changes.....Bruce taught me to read the data. I might be calculating it different than you guys.

The best I have gone was .097



Where do you think I would fall at with you knowing how I shift? I can't wait to get that think hooked up so we can be more competitive:)

[Jonathan Paulk]

You can measure the shifts without the driveshaft sensor....I will still show the peaks and lows of the RPMs during the shifts.....

[Shawn Johnson]

whats the purpose of the throttle position signal? My foot goes to the floor and stays there until I cross the finish line.

Every video I have ever watched of you, or should I say "listened too" sounds like you lift your foot off the gas pedal between shifts. That is how you have earned the name "Granny Shiftin Shawn Johnson"

My average is .13.... I consider myself to be a rather slow shifting person.


signal is to prove that it was.... everyone says that never lift...but no one believes that...

Three championships and that is what I've earned.... man you guys are rough..

[Ryan Hecox]

signal is to prove that it was.... everyone says that never lift...but no one believes that...

Three championships and that is what I've earned.... man you guys are rough..



Who cares what we call you, your still a three time Champion. If it works for you then it obviously works well. I'm not "name calling" just giving you the reasons why "I" think you shift slow. If you dont lift, then your car sounds like you do. Either way, you have won three championships and I havent won any. Keep doin what you're doin.

[Shawn Johnson]

Who cares what we call you, your still a three time Champion. If it works for you then it obviously works well. I'm not "name calling" just giving you the reasons why "I" think you shift slow. If you dont lift, then your car sounds like you do. Either way, you have won three championships and I havent won any. Keep doin what you're doin.

I'll admit sometimes I do... it depends on how many trans I have waiting in the pits and if its qual or elim… braking in a new clutch or old….. but if its Mike.... its all out...braking all those trans with that 390 gear gets a person gun shy...

and last season I found out that changing the position of your seat makes a big difference...... last year it was in the wrong position…

[Mike Washington]

.. but if its Mike.... its all out...

LOL.......Same here bud....


I burnt my junk up in GA cause of you!!!!

Anyone else I would of had my foot outta it at the 660.

No way I was letting you come around me!


Laters
Mike Washington

[Shawn Johnson]

LOL.......Same here bud....


I burnt my junk up in GA cause of you!!!!

Anyone else I would of had my foot outta it at the 660.

No way I was letting you come around me!


Laters
Mike Washington

I broke more trans last year just trying to out qual. you.... for some reason ... switching from the T5 to the TKO ... I couldn't get the 2 - 3 shift timing down....

[Gene Hindman]

Well, I don't have a clue as to how slow I shift, but if you guys are that slow then maybe you should try the AOD with the weight break? You'd gain close to .4 tenths instantly, Change the camshaft around alittle and let the TQ convertor work.:D :D :D

[KenB]

I think Shawn sometimes sounds slow because of the clutch he uses. As far as tach data, it all matter how you measure it (as far as comparing) but I do it the same way with Steve everytime. It used to be my best ammo for yelling. Need to find something else.

[Ryan Hecox]

Well, I don't have a clue as to how slow I shift, but if you guys are that slow then maybe you should try the AOD with the weight break? You'd gain close to .4 tenths instantly, Change the camshaft around alittle and let the TQ convertor work.:D :D :D

let me think about that for a minute, NO.

Just because it takes .13 to shift doesnt mean the car stops moving forward.
No matter how fast you shift there is a period of time that the car is not in gear. So under your deductions EVERYONE would benefit from an AOD.

[Brandon Alsept]

Well, I don't have a clue as to how slow I shift, but if you guys are that slow then maybe you should try the AOD with the weight break? You'd gain close to .4 tenths instantly, Change the camshaft around alittle and let the TQ convertor work.:D :D :D

If that was the case they would need to be +400lbs for a AOD:D

[Bob Cosby]

I believe in the Ed Hohenberg theory of shifting: Never lift unless you're upside down or on fire (and then its only a maybe).

And Stock T45's hate me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqVPl6KDa8). ;)

Ya'll have a great 2008 - I'll be watching!

Bob

[CarlosSobrino]

And Tommy

This idea that constantly insulting someone is humor must be a North East thing....
…

NoNoNoNo ! Maryland is NOT NorthEast as far as us NorEasteners are concerned. And the SouthEast begins in Virginia. That means that everything inbetween must be the MiddleEast !!! lolol

proceed

[CarlosSobrino]

Wanna see some real driving?? Some real horsepower?? Ya'll got nutin for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsO5Pzk_2xc

[Gene Hindman]

If that was the case they would need to be +400lbs for a AOD:D
You're not factoring in the TQ convertor and you're using the 100# for a tenth formula, which is way off in this class or P/S.
Just because it takes .13 to shift doesnt mean the car stops moving forward.
No matter how fast you shift there is a period of time that the car is not in gear. So under your deductions EVERYONE would benefit from an AOD. The car is no longer under accelleration, but rather deccelleration during some of the shifts. And I'd be willing to bet, if it takes .14 to shift you're losing .07 in E.T. (Atleast).
And NO, it wouldn't benefit every racer to go to an AOD. Not everyone uses the clutch!!!!:eek:

[Brandon Alsept]

You're not factoring in the TQ convertor and you're using the 100# for a tenth formula, which is way off in this class or P/S.
The car is no longer under accelleration, but rather deccelleration during some of the shifts. And I'd be willing to bet, if it takes .14 to shift you're losing .07 in E.T. (Atleast).
And NO, it wouldn't benefit every racer to go to an AOD. Not everyone uses the clutch!!!!:eek:

Well I have to use the same factors that get used against me so 100 to slow you a tenth is what everyone is saying about mine;)

Whoever doesn't use the clutch has a bigger sack than I do. I broke sliders while using the clutch hate to see what happens when you don't. Must have really good timing on there shifts.

[Ryan Hecox]

You're not factoring in the TQ convertor and you're using the 100# for a tenth formula, which is way off in this class or P/S.
The car is no longer under accelleration, but rather deccelleration during some of the shifts. And I'd be willing to bet, if it takes .14 to shift you're losing .07 in E.T. (Atleast).
And NO, it wouldn't benefit every racer to go to an AOD. Not everyone uses the clutch!!!!:eek:


even if you dont use the clutch there is a period of time when the car in technically in nuetral. So no matter how you slice it, with or without a clutch, the car at some point during the shift is "deccellerating".


Im curious as to why Hot Street gets a 200 pound penalty to run a stick if they are created so equal. Maybe you should send in some more rule revisions for Hot Street, once you get them through with all your convincing data Bob Hanlon would thank you endlessly.

[Tim Duncan]

Shift it off the limiter :)

[Gene Hindman]

Im curious as to why Hot Street gets a 200 pound penalty to run a stick if they are created so equal. Maybe you should send in some more rule revisions for Hot Street, once you get them through with all your convincing data Bob Hanlon would thank you endlessly.

Are you really curious?


Because you are racing with a 100# penalty now and can't use but a diaphram clutch (10.5" too) and are limited to 4 gears with a preselected gear ratios and final drive is 4th gear, not 5th.
Now, let's say for example that the adjustable clutch was still legal, The penalty was 150# for that back in the day. Now that would be 250# penalty and the clutchless trans with 5 gears aint even factored in yet. The trans by itself is worth 2 tenths in a class ssimiliar to P/S over the T-5/Tremec and that's another tested and proven fact.
Sounds to me like H/S sticks are getting a break compared to P/S sticks.

[Gene Hindman]

Shift it off the limiter :)

:) :) :) DING DING DING

However, as long as it is taking some of these guys to shift, the engine flare is probably close to 5-600 rpms and is probably off the limiter and they don't even know it.

[Rick Walsh]

whats the purpose of the throttle position signal? My foot goes to the floor and stays there until I cross the finish line.

Every video I have ever watched of you, or should I say "listened too" sounds like you lift your foot off the gas pedal between shifts. That is how you have earned the name "Granny Shiftin Shawn Johnson"

My average is .13.... I consider myself to be a rather slow shifting person.

Wow two championships in a row in FS and still no love for the guy maybe we all need to get lessons from him on the proper granny shifting /race and championship winning technique- Jesus - give him a break already.

[CarlosSobrino]

Wow two championships in a row in FS and still no love for the guy maybe we all need to get lessons from him on the proper granny shifting /race and championship winning technique- Jesus - give him a break already.

But dont forget all those input shafts Shawn broke. Funny how the gear that gave Shawn the most headaches was 1st.. If the grannyshifting allegations are true, then even more kudos to Shawn. We've been beating the livin bejesus out of our trannys and Shawn took 2 F/S rings. I'm done here, now back to my drink and my horse.