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Kelly Pelrine
12-16-2007, 08:25 PM
Hey Chris,

Sorry i have not had a chance to call you. I am still working on the OSM proposal for next year and need to get it finished asap. I have thought about the best way to handle your concerns, and i believe posting is the best way, that way there are no mis-interpretations and there is a clear record of what i am saying. It also gives me a chance to think before i speak lol.

1. In the 2 years i have been talking with you about your combo, you have not shown me any data on your car. No testing, no dyno numbers, no specs.

2. For 2 years you have been asking me for several rules changes, with only your combo in mind and nothing to base them on. I approved 2 changes (1 for the class as a whole (deduct 50 lbs for non intercooled combos) and one for 6cyl cars (took another 100lbs off). Both of these rules resulted in you being able to take off an extra 150 pounds.

As the promoter and owner of this series, i have to think about the class as a whole. I cannot make rules based on one person. What if someone else other than you is looking to bring an import here next year and knows their combo? Under the current rules, you would have to weigh 2900 lbs and you are unlimited on turbo size. I feel that your latest request of allowing NOS with your combo is unfair to everyone who runs or may want to run Outlaw 8.5 next year. There are other ways to control your turbo that are legal.

In all honesty, i think the combo you are building sounds pretty damn cool. When we first started talking about all this, i told you there are no guarantees, and that the rules are set for a year and may change for the next year. So im not sure why you are so suprised about the rules for 08. I do not like to make mid-season rules changes. It does nothing but cause problems and cost people money. You had a whole year to get the car out under the 07 rules in which you could run twin turbos with 100 lb penalty. All i have asked is that you show me some numbers. If it becomes obvious that your combo is maxxed out, both Justin and i will do what we can to keep things fair. I just cant justify making so many changes when there is nothing to base them on. So many people have been working on their combos for years trying to figure them out. I will not be the promoter who awards someone that doesnt put the time in, and penalize the person who has finally figured it out. Seen it too many times and i dont agree with that, that is part of the reason why i run my own series. On the flip side, i am not perfect and i do make mistakes. I do my best to learn from them, and im the first to admit when i do make one. Thats why i like to hear what all of you think. Because there may be something i overlooked.

Please, get the car done, do some testing. Hell i will even come help you. Ive got quite a few friends who are some of the best in the business when it comes to import motors. If you need advice i will point you in their direction. I think your combo has a shot, and i think you do also or you wouldnt have built it.

Thanks!
Kelly

LCA1971
12-17-2007, 02:46 AM
You are right about the two years! I'll give you that one! 07 I was in japan for half the year and was unable to complete the car! As far as fair...the rules say "no dual power adders" but you can run two stages on any size eng, at a 100lb penilty. That's all I want. One fogger nozzle at a 100lbs penalty. That means 3000 lbs total. 2900 lbs 6 cyl turbo(183ci) + 100lbs for nitrous! What's unfair about that.

Kelly Pelrine
12-17-2007, 07:24 AM
You are right about the two years! I'll give you that one! 07 I was in japan for half the year and was unable to complete the car! As far as fair...the rules say "no dual power adders" but you can run two stages on any size eng, at a 100lb penilty. That's all I want. One fogger nozzle at a 100lbs penalty. That means 3000 lbs total. 2900 lbs 6 cyl turbo(183ci) + 100lbs for nitrous! What's unfair about that.

The rules say single power adder only, which means no combination of power adders. One type of power adder. lol! The nitrous guys do need some help when they are up against a no limit rule on superchargers & turbos. Think about it.

I spoke with my buddy Nero at Titan Motorsports last nite about this. Take a look at their website, in particular their street Supra thats runs 8's... in the 1/4. Their 1/8 mile times are in the low 5's. Granted those times are on a 325 Drag Radial... just goes to show it can be done!

sprayn93coupe
12-17-2007, 07:12 PM
Let it go linus!

Kelly Pelrine
12-17-2007, 07:22 PM
TROPHY STICK

Trophy Stick... dude that is hilarious lol :D (sorry Kris & Dave but that is funny!)

sprayn93coupe
12-17-2007, 07:25 PM
That was prior to 6.50

Kelly Pelrine
12-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Hey Chris,

Thank you for having a nice discussion with me this evening. Im looking forward to seeing the car in testing. And i'll be doing some more research as well. Glad we got to chat, i think if we continue to keep each other informed it will go a long way :)

Kelly

LCA1971
12-18-2007, 12:10 PM
Thanks for taking my call. I will be sending you the info we talked about.

Chris

LCA1971
12-18-2007, 12:14 PM
Thanks for all the support Jason!! HAHA

LCA1971
12-18-2007, 01:04 PM
Kelly,

I talked to Nero today! We'll see how it works out! Also the car's they have running low 5's...have their $25,000 engine in them! That's a little out of my price range! HA

Chris

Kelly Pelrine
12-18-2007, 01:12 PM
Kelly,

I talked to Nero today! We'll see how it works out! Also the car's they have running low 5's...have their $25,000 engine in them! That's a little out of my price range! HA

Chris

Chris you forgot to mention you were putting this in a mustang! lol... yea we do need to talk some more kiddo. I'll shoot you a PM

sprayn93coupe
12-18-2007, 05:15 PM
No problem Chris. Is this the same car you had in osca? What engine are you putting in it? Also what did you do w/ the windsor?

turbodragradial
12-19-2007, 05:03 AM
Hey Chris,

You can afford it just sell your airplane. Whatever you do just get it done racing is the fun part not thinking about racing.

LCA1971
12-20-2007, 02:06 AM
Yea, no kidding! It's been to long! How's your car? Did you sell the yates eng?

turbodragradial
12-20-2007, 10:56 PM
Yes I sold the yates headed windsor. I am now in the process of putting in a afr headed 331 with a Hanlon tremec in my car. Just looking to have some fun in UMTR and OSM 6.50. What did you do with your windsor? Also fill us in on your combo your building for 8.5!

LCA1971
12-22-2007, 01:14 PM
Josh,

I sold the 418. I'm putting a 183ci 6 cyl turbo in the car for now. We're trying to get the rules worked out right know. So, I can compete with the v8 cars! I'm ready to get back to the track! It's been to long.

Chris

regalpimp1978
12-22-2007, 04:16 PM
hey chris get that thing together well go testing down south we got the 8.5s on the vw bug with 2 stages of nos 1700 cc @ 2100 pounds ITS GONNA B SICK !!!!!!!!!!! j/k i just had to bust yer ballz lol merry christmas buddy CRAIG

LCA1971
12-26-2007, 11:33 AM
I like it! Happy New Year to you guy's! Chris

cox motorsports
12-26-2007, 07:10 PM
Hows the car coming together ??????????:D